#rest on irc.freenode.net 2011-12-17 (txt)

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[11:08] <Jarda> so I talked to this friend the other day
[11:08] <Jarda> and told him I'm doing restful stuff. He said "me too"
[11:09] <Jarda> so I started asking stuff about his work
[11:09] <Jarda> turned out he's developing his own framework
[11:09] <Jarda> (web framework, that is)
[11:09] <Jarda> which is mainly useful as the base of a CMS currenlty
[11:10] <Jarda> the fun facts: a) everything goes through POST
[11:10] <Jarda> b) there's a "action" or "command" or whatever parameter in the POST body
[11:11] <Jarda> so when he says "REST" he means "RPC"
[11:12] <Jarda> I asked "oh, websites with only POST, how about caching and google indexing", he answers "there's so many ways doing caching.."
[11:14] <fu-manchu> lol
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[11:40] <mikekkkk> memcache ftw?
[11:40] <mikekkkk> :)
[11:43] <mikekkkk> well mamund darrelmiller whartung (anyone else who cares) - this last post is pretty much my last shot at trying to make the case for relaxing PUT
[11:43] <mikekkkk> I'm spent, I can't come up with clearer argument than this:
[11:43] <mikekkkk> http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/18083
[11:45] <mikekkkk> but it does seem like a lot of people who come out swinging in defence of the status quo tail off fairly quickly once you get to the crux of the issue..
[11:46] <mikekkkk> which is that visibility (self descriptiveness) doesn't appear to require determination of full/partialness
[11:47] <mikekkkk> hence no examples of intermediary mecahnisms in 12 years of 2616
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