#rest on irc.freenode.net 2011-12-12 (txt)

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[02:18] <RLa> i'm trying to implement authentication for using rest resources
[02:18] <RLa> but i'm not sure which response status code send for failed attempt
[02:23] <RLa> http basic authentication should be used?
[02:29] <trygvis> look at 401 and 403
[02:30] <trygvis> basically, use 401 if the agent didn't send any headers, 403 if the agent is not allowed access even with credentials
[02:31] <RLa> i first thought about using session for authentication
[02:32] <RLa> 401: "The request requires user authentication. The response MUST include a WWW-Authenticate header field (section 14.47) containing a challenge applicable to the requested resource."
[02:32] <RLa> so i probably cannot use 401 for session-based authentication
[02:32] <trygvis> why not?
[02:33] <RLa> doesn't that trigger external dialog in the browser?
[02:33] <trygvis> only for the authentication methods the browser support
[02:33] <RLa> oh
[02:34] <trygvis> are you going to access this service with a browser?
[02:34] <trygvis> or is it just for testing?
[02:34] <RLa> yes, with browser, using javascript
[02:35] <RLa> i'm writing small management interface for the system i develop here
[02:35] <trygvis> the browser won't pop up an authentication dialog for async calls, you'll see the 401 error directly on the response object
[02:36] <RLa> it's much easier to implement management interface on server side with rest than with standard way, by generating lot of html
[02:36] <trygvis> true that, I love it
[02:36] <RLa> trygvis, that would be very good
[02:38] <trygvis> I do find that browser rest applications tend to be a bit different from m2m applications
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[02:41] <RLa> i see no difference, using only json as transport protocol
[02:41] <RLa> some things generate html responses, that might be difference
[02:42] <RLa> i build html from received json data on the browser
[02:43] <RLa> so i guess some non-browser client could use these services too
[02:43] <trygvis> as long as you use json to generate all the calls it's more m2m than h2m
[02:46] <trygvis> (which is good)
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[03:09] <RLa> hm, seems like if there is authentication required for the whole admin page, and user has successful attempt, then all requests made from that page have authentication headers automatically added?
[03:09] <RLa> it would make lot of things very very easy
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[08:02] mamund shows up
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[09:00] <whartung> o/
[09:01] <mamund> \o
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[11:31] <whartung> bubble bubble
[11:31] mamund is relieved :)
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[12:10] <mamund> ok
[12:10] <mamund> this is gerting really boring ppl!
[12:11] <fu-manchu> this quiet channel?
[12:15] <fu-manchu> ok, uh... "the Link header is the most useless extension to the HTTP protocol since the 'Safe' header in HTCPCP!"
[12:15] <mamund> see, that's better!
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[15:02] mamund thinks it's too noisy in here, heading to a library instead. so long!
[15:04] <chilversc> hmm? I thought this was a restful channel? I came here to sleep
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