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[02:03] <Jarda> f00li5h: there is
[02:03] <Jarda> but normally you don't have sessions
[02:04] <Jarda> there is this "Authorization" header
[02:21] <f00li5h> o_O
[02:22] <f00li5h> Jarda: you mean http basic auth?
[02:22] <Jarda> in example, yeah
[02:22] <Jarda> so your service returns 401 Unauthorized
[02:22] <Jarda> with a WWW-Authenticate header (a challenge, that is)
[02:23] <Jarda> which tells the client he needs to authenticate
[02:23] <f00li5h> is there a sensible way to have browsers deal with that?
[02:23] <Jarda> well it then pops the browser login prompt
[02:24] <Jarda> but what I've done, is to have sessions only for browsers
[02:24] <Jarda> and for other clients just authenticate with every request
[02:25] <f00li5h> hmm
[02:32] <f00li5h> Jarda: how do you know it's a browser?
[02:34] <Jarda> f00li5h: well I have cheated a bit. I always start the session and send the session cookie, it is then up to the client if it supports it. If there isn't an authenticated user, then I look into http basic auth
[02:36] <f00li5h> @_@
[02:36] <f00li5h> Jarda: send a session cookie if you don't receive http auth?
[02:36] <f00li5h> how does logging in work then?
[02:37] <Jarda> f00li5h: no, I send session cookie always
[02:38] <f00li5h> that doesn't make sense
[02:38] <f00li5h> is that just for simplicity?
[02:39] <Jarda> then in Agavi framework (which I use), there is this context of "User", which holds session data. In User::startup() I check if a) the user is authenticated (an authenticated session) b) if the request has http basic auth headers
[02:39] <Jarda> if a) is false, then I try b)
[02:39] <Jarda> if it still doesn't work, then I don't have an authenticated user
[02:39] <Jarda> and the security feature in Agavi then runs the "Login" action
[02:39] <f00li5h> i see
[02:39] <Jarda> which in html-output type shows login form
[02:40] <Jarda> for others I send 401 Unauthorized
[02:41] <f00li5h> oh, i see
[02:41] <f00li5h> send a login page with a 401
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[12:08] <mikekelly> mamund: do you know where I can find that diagram of waka ?
[12:08] <mikekelly> I'm sure there was some 3d diagram or something
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[16:31] <steveklabnik> mamund: https://gist.github.com/1431783 ;)
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[16:33] <steveklabnik> super old-school procedures.
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