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[04:25:15] yeah, but going the WADL way will yield a RPC styled interface instead of a REST application [04:27:38] Yup. thats true. :( [04:28:52] Hakon|mbp (~hakon1@84.202.136.151) joined #rest. [04:31:07] Hakon|mbp (~hakon1@84.202.136.151) left irc: Client Quit [04:48:43] trygvis: Do you know any resources which talk about authentication using REST ? [04:49:09] not really (other than http) [04:49:38] I think most people just use digest with a token of some kind [04:49:47] Yeah..the problem is my client isn't really a browser. [04:49:57] that's the good part [04:59:25] gchristensen (~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc) joined #rest. [05:18:59] mephju (~mephju@dslb-188-103-161-146.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rest. [05:19:39] kennethreitz (~kennethre@c-24-127-96-129.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined #rest. [05:28:27] lupine_85 (~lupine_85@sharpcoin.org) left irc: Changing host [05:28:27] lupine_85 (~lupine_85@unaffiliated/lupine-85/x-7392152) joined #rest. 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[10:46:21] gchristensen (~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc) left irc: Client Quit [10:50:21] KevBurnsJr (~kevburnsj@c-76-126-10-63.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #rest. [10:52:17] mephju (~mephju@dslb-188-103-161-146.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [10:52:44] tuxtoti (~Adium@122.167.88.255) joined #rest. [11:03:44] mamund: what do you think about this.. [11:03:48] me: "In practice clients follow links, and those links set their expectation about the 'meaning' of the document they get back." [11:04:03] other guy: "Those links generally only tell you the purpose of the document, not how to interpret the content... Those are two very different things" [11:32:18] tuxtoti (~Adium@122.167.88.255) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:07:57] Wombert (~Wombert@dslb-092-075-029-037.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Wombert [13:05:51] mikekelly: I see the distinction, however, what is the advantage of limiting the link relation to only the "purpose". [13:10:05] mikekelly: And really, what is the difference between a link relation that constrains the media type that will be returned to a very specific type and one that says you will get application/xml with elements that have a certain meaining? [13:41:53] grove (~grove@193.201.9.46.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Quit: grove [13:48:43] Hakon|mbp (~hakon1@81.0.156.226) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [13:55:21] http://iandavis.com/apps/hal/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fsws.geonames.org%2F5391959%2F [14:02:11] Shame it is in JSON and not XML :-) [14:04:31] Hakon|mbp (~hakon1@84.202.136.151) joined #rest. [14:12:16] darrelmiller: people seem keen on this JSON Stuff [14:12:56] mamund: I am not understanding Joe at all [14:13:09] wasn't he involved in atom ? [14:15:25] fu-manchu (~fumanchu@adsl-99-30-180-185.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:27:52] mikekell1 (mikek@s3x0r.biz) joined #rest. 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[17:18:50] errybody loves json [17:21:02] I guess that makes me an outcast :-) [17:21:48] they've been scarred by java [17:21:51] it happens [17:22:52] I wonder if someone spent time consuming JSON from a non-browser client how much they would love it. [17:23:24] probably fine. json has libraries for pretty much everything now. [17:23:45] err, the reverse [17:24:59] What do people use for querying json object graphs? [17:25:37] Action: steveklabnik shrugs [18:41:06] gchristensen (~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [19:10:58] gchristensen (~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc) joined #rest. [19:26:45] gchristensen (~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [19:28:17] gchristensen (~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc) joined #rest. [19:32:31] gchristensen (~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:50:35] Wombert_ (~Wombert@dslb-092-075-029-037.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rest. 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[22:58:43] darrelmiller: I often too wonder what do you use to query complex json structures [22:58:48] xml+xpath is so <3 [22:59:13] json is great if you are just passing around "objects" or stuff that deserializes as objects [22:59:51] I know, some say you shouldn't pass around "objects" in REST (that should be left to SOAP) [23:00:07] but I still find it useful to deserialize/serialize resources as objects in my client apps [23:00:53] darrelmiller: using JSON.net and property attributes makes it easy to do serialization/deserialization [23:01:02] but for complex stuff it isn't at all good [23:01:09] like for reporting where you get complex trees [23:01:41] that's why I have thought I would use json for the crud stuff and for reporting etc complex I would use XML [00:00:00] --- Mon Nov 28 2011