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[03:24:19] yeah, w don't want anything interesting on this channel [03:53:04] :P [03:53:10] current status: http://browsertoolkit.com/fault-tolerance.png [03:57:10] Hakon|mbp (~hakon1@158.222.202.84.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [04:10:13] Hakon|mbp (~hakon1@c51009CE2.inet.catch.no) joined #rest. [05:13:19] dig it: http://www.commoncrawl.org/ [05:15:48] bigbluehat (~bigblueha@nmd.sbx08595.greensc.wayport.net) joined #rest. [05:32:09] darrelmiller (~darrelmil@70.24.177.78) joined #rest. [06:00:13] DracoBlue (~Adium@ip-vlan-obckunde-02-217-66-60-14.pixelpark.net) joined #rest. [06:02:25] DracoBlue (~Adium@ip-vlan-obckunde-02-217-66-60-14.pixelpark.net) left #rest. [06:05:29] gchristensen (~gchristen@c-98-218-68-132.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) joined #rest. [06:05:33] gchristensen (~gchristen@c-98-218-68-132.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [06:05:34] gchristensen (~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc) joined #rest. [06:06:25] grove (~grove@aggw006.cappelendamm.no) left irc: Quit: grove [06:18:18] Hakon|mbp (~hakon1@c51009CE2.inet.catch.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [06:52:29] Hakon|mbp (~hakon1@c51009CE2.inet.catch.no) joined #rest. [06:56:33] grove (~grove@193.201.9.46.customer.cdi.no) joined #rest. [07:03:07] Action: mamund waves [07:13:41] welcome to occupy #rest [07:16:19] Only 1% of people who use the term actually understand what it means. [07:20:22] gchristensen (~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [07:20:59] "i am the 99%!" [07:21:06] oh, wait. that's not right, is it? [07:23:24] https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/design-documents/webintentsapi/building-web-intents [07:23:35] someone is thinking about building browser that "understand" links! [07:23:45] not a total fan of WI, but like the idea behind it. [07:24:08] that sounds like the hal repl thing I've been talking about for a while [07:25:22] mikekelly: the webintents is like hal repl? [07:25:29] wait no it's not wtf [07:25:35] :) [07:25:59] you know how excel macro's get recorded ? [07:26:25] or selenium tests for that matter [07:26:52] something like that, just with a dsl that's appropriate to HAL's notion of links and resources [07:28:01] i.e. you could discover an application and scaffold client code as you go [07:31:25] I think having stuff like that around a format like hal would help prove that exposing your app with a generic type has some real benefits [07:32:08] beyond just drawing hte comparison with html [07:33:35] I like how that URI templats thread turned ou t:) [07:39:43] mikekelly: templates thread? [07:41:37] the one you just posted on [07:41:52] yeah and what about it you like? [07:42:06] seems pretty innocous to me [07:42:19] Action: mamund can't spell for sh!t today [07:42:28] fact that people are being honest about the whole 'out oof band' thing [07:42:49] ahhh [07:42:57] well, it only makes sense, right? [07:44:22] well I spent a few posts going back and forth with eric where he was saying that the out of band coupling on those templates (i.e. not using forms) is "the antithesis of REST" [07:45:13] again, you mention eric [07:45:18] LOL [07:46:49] well you did ask about specifics [07:46:56] anyway, you're right in that folks need to be talking plainly about what is OOB in all this. [07:47:01] I just said I was happy with the thread [07:47:06] :) [07:47:20] mikekelly: we're very happy that you're happy [07:47:25] :D [07:47:57] seeing ppl happy that others are happy makes _me_ happy [07:48:37] yes mamund, you are the most meta person here [07:48:40] saying that makes me happy [07:49:41] ROFL [07:50:07] I wish I knew about psychology to put my theories about the way people interact with forms vs machines into clever-clogs words [07:51:21] at least that way, people would not be able to tell if you were right or wrong. [07:51:41] haha [07:51:57] that's philosophy darrel [07:52:10] ask mamund about that [07:52:17] he's like an old chinese man with a beard [07:52:23] except he's not chinese [07:52:30] or old, [07:52:35] well.. [07:52:43] whatever you say. [07:52:47] hey, hay! [07:52:48] He's not old, you are just young. [07:52:58] you kids get off my lawn! [07:53:04] bwahahaha [08:00:58] gchristensen (~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc) joined #rest. 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[09:55:17] ssedano: the hypermedia you use tend to include som information on allows rel attribute values [09:56:27] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4287#page-21 [10:09:10] mhausenblas (~mhausenbl@wlan-nat.fwgal01.deri.ie) left irc: Quit: brb [10:12:14] bigbluehat (~bigblueha@adsl-74-177-127-105.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:18:09] grove (~grove@193.201.9.46.customer.cdi.no) joined #rest. [10:26:35] ivanfi (~ivanfi@62.159.77.167) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:40:41] gchristensen (~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [10:42:11] Hakon|mbp (~hakon1@158.222.202.84.customer.cdi.no) joined #rest. [10:44:32] DracoBlue (~Adium@dslb-088-075-066-254.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rest. [10:45:14] DracoBlue (~Adium@dslb-088-075-066-254.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:52:50] Zend_Rest_Controller is giving me nightmares. [10:53:09] mikekelly: I may adopt Resauce [10:54:47] Action: mamund is back from lunch [11:26:35] technoweenie (~technowee@host-86-220-9-69.midco.net) joined #rest. [11:57:02] gchristensen (~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc) joined #rest. [12:21:35] mephju (~mephju@dslb-188-102-103-149.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:25:07] Action: mamund does a small dance! [12:25:52] just got my copyedit PDF back from o'reilly. a couple nights of pouring over the pages to make sure to resolve remaining 'nits' and this baby is out-the-door! [12:34:55] \o\ /o/ \o\ [12:35:31] mamund: it was the node.js book? [12:36:05] mikekelly: you around? I have a Resauce question. [12:40:59] oh. $this->_helper->viewRenderer->setNoRender(); [12:41:05] mikekelly: nvm [12:41:20] RTFS ={ [12:43:27] Jarda: well, the hypermedia api w/ node & html5 [12:43:36] not really a "node" book [12:43:53] trygvis: love the ascii art! 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